tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post115229851103468539..comments2023-10-18T09:23:13.050-05:00Comments on QueerToday.com: United Front on Same-Sex MarriageMark D. Snyderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12508873047127283895noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1153190236995297122006-07-17T21:37:00.000-05:002006-07-17T21:37:00.000-05:00We need not be ashamed of the way we were born.We need not be ashamed of the way we were born.John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1153182465115394642006-07-17T19:27:00.000-05:002006-07-17T19:27:00.000-05:00we will always be divided as long as some of us ar...we will always be divided as long as some of us are shamefulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1153073381575483502006-07-16T13:09:00.000-05:002006-07-16T13:09:00.000-05:00One course of action I have not seen anyone do is ...One course of action I have not seen anyone do is unite gay people and their supporters in this state. What our effort needs is a common resource where we can dicuss what we want to do, and who has already done what. Outarguing the silver haired fighters for Christ is going to get you less bang for your buck than if you went to all the campuses across this state and found out who the student leaders were that support gay marriage. Now you would have a network of supporters that could keep each other informed about upcoming events, and could rally when needed. Statistics show that the age group 18 to 25 are 70% likely to approve of marriage, but only 10% likely to vote. Motivation in this area is critical for winning a popular vote in this matter. <BR/><BR/>Next you go to the bigger organizations and ask the same, until we have a common line of communication between all. This has not yet been done.<BR/><BR/>The gay community is divided, and its inability to work together for a common good may deicide our future. Instead of having many little camps all overworked and spinning their wheels, we should all bond together, at least in spirit for two reasons; <BR/><BR/>1. To leave no stone unturned in our effort to reach, motivate, and maintain communications with those who support us. <BR/>2. To make sure that we are not duplicating our efforts.<BR/> <BR/>Thus far I have seen no group try to tie the others together, and I can't give you a good reason why. We would clearly benefit by this, so who will end up being the "great uniter"?John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152832395565418312006-07-13T18:13:00.000-05:002006-07-13T18:13:00.000-05:00Ok Mark. I don;t mind that we disagree. We are p...Ok Mark. I don;t mind that we disagree. We are probably both correct. The problem of lgbt equality is so complex that I doubt there is a single truth that applies to all situations. To me of prime imporatnce is that we are both working towards the same goal of better lives for lgbts. If we prefer to approach it by different routes, well, here's to all roads leading to equality! (i'm happy to resume respectful debate later, but am just too tired at the moment)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152799004896027642006-07-13T08:56:00.000-05:002006-07-13T08:56:00.000-05:00Laurel I agree marriage is very important to secur...Laurel I agree marriage is very important to secure and keep legal. I disagree that it is the gateway to full equality, and I disagree that the fight for gay marriage has had a positive trickle down affect on other LGBT issues.Mark D. Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12508873047127283895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152727818265879222006-07-12T13:10:00.000-05:002006-07-12T13:10:00.000-05:00I heard channel 2 and necn are live video too...I heard channel 2 and necn are live video too...Mark D. Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12508873047127283895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152725475697272312006-07-12T12:31:00.000-05:002006-07-12T12:31:00.000-05:00Bay Windows is blogging live. go to baywindows.com...Bay Windows is blogging live. go to baywindows.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152716933859246932006-07-12T10:08:00.000-05:002006-07-12T10:08:00.000-05:00does anyone know where i can get updates on this s...does anyone know where i can get updates on this stuff today? i'm stuck at work but i wish i was there, i want to see how its all going and how many people are protesting and stuff. thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152711800550553222006-07-12T08:43:00.000-05:002006-07-12T08:43:00.000-05:00Not only that ... but if we do compromise on marri...Not only that ... but if we do compromise on marriage rights, what else will we have to surrender? Anti-discrimination laws in the workplace, funding for violence and suicide prevention, the right to organize, protest?<BR/><BR/>The way I see it, too, whatever the immediate and long-term outcome of the Mass. marriage debate, at least GLBT citizens are getting politically sophisticated and locally active like never before. We can use this savviness to our advantage when we want to address other things, like saving the environment.<BR/><BR/>-TomBlue-Xelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00385540560499669080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152645009815277672006-07-11T14:10:00.000-05:002006-07-11T14:10:00.000-05:00Thank, Laura, well said.I know a lot of people who...Thank, Laura, well said.<BR/><BR/>I know a lot of people who were hostile or indifferent to gay marriage. Some still are, but I am seeing something different, suddenly.<BR/><BR/>A close friend of mine, formerly a stauch opponent just the other day, for the first time realized that this is about real people with real relationships.<BR/><BR/>Light dawns on MarbleheadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152643762507515292006-07-11T13:49:00.000-05:002006-07-11T13:49:00.000-05:00To anonymous and others of similar perspective: t...To anonymous and others of similar perspective: the marriage issue has been an excellent means of de-demonizing gay people in the public's eye. Rest assured that this is having a positive domino effect on all other LGBT issues. Marriage equality is the gateway to full civil rights for LGBTs. Whether you care about marriage per se or not, you should recognize this. What are you, Anonymous, doing to make our collective LGBT lives better and safer? There are many orgs working on queer youth, HIV and other LGBT issues. There is no dictator preventing you from working on non-marriage issues with them. Stop bitching and get to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152629601500014572006-07-11T09:53:00.000-05:002006-07-11T09:53:00.000-05:00It is unfortunate, but we do need a united front. ...It is unfortunate, but we do need a united front. However, the reality still remains that the gay community put their eggs all in one basket, and that basket could be crushed. The reality still remains that queer youth are being attacked, more people are getting infected with HIV, etc. Way to go gay leaders, this is the mess of a trap you have fallen into.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152623038722119532006-07-11T08:03:00.000-05:002006-07-11T08:03:00.000-05:00You might find this ineresting:According to the le...You might find this ineresting:<BR/><BR/>According to the legal experts at SCOTUSBLOG, there is now a federal issue that will need to be resolved:<BR/><BR/>http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/2006/07/massachusetts_g.html#commentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-1152600728381617372006-07-11T01:52:00.000-05:002006-07-11T01:52:00.000-05:00Right on. Very well said.Right on. Very well said.Chris Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03377540692073417675noreply@blogger.com