tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post8422195807985140945..comments2023-10-18T09:23:13.050-05:00Comments on QueerToday.com: Damn You Rich!Mark D. Snyderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12508873047127283895noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-91203596501405835382008-03-20T13:06:00.000-05:002008-03-20T13:06:00.000-05:00While Obama's pastor supports social justice, and ...While Obama's pastor supports social justice, and LGBT rights - this is who Clinton prays with: <BR/><BR/><BR/>"Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."<BR/><BR/>http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html<BR/><BR/>Ryan, I'm curious to know how you feel about this one?Mark D. Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12508873047127283895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-19412093242859596692008-03-18T22:40:00.000-05:002008-03-18T22:40:00.000-05:00Ryan, I'm kind of shocked to hear this opinion fro...Ryan, I'm kind of shocked to hear this opinion from you. I have to side with Mark on this one; I've not read one thing the good pastor has said I take offense to. <BR/><BR/>I've read your posts for years and until now I've never sided against you. My respect for your opinion is high enough to make me question my own judgement. <BR/><BR/>I'm not proud of everything my country does, but I love my country with all my heart even still. I don't see it as unamerican to speak your disapproval of certain things our nation has done wrong. Hell, that's the only way we ever take notice and action is when someone speaks out. <BR/><BR/>"I do not agree at all with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to speak it." ~Voltaire<BR/><BR/>I think it is healthy that the pastor has his voice to say his views and you yours that you can disagree so vehemently. Somewhere between the two I'll bet we find the truth. I'd love to hear more of why you feel so strongly.John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-8111819814421375422008-03-17T14:16:00.000-05:002008-03-17T14:16:00.000-05:00So far I have not read one thing I disagreed with ...So far I have not read one thing I disagreed with as far as Obama's pastor. You have to look at it within the context of social justice and oppression and what he was trying to say and the emotions he was trying to evoke. <BR/><BR/>Obama's church does amazing things for Social Justice and I think you're neglecting some important historical and cultural things. <BR/><BR/>To ask a family to leave their church is really really hard. My family's pastor says things they don't agree with too, but they don't leave the church. <BR/><BR/>The church isn't just its pastor, it's the people - who are often like family.Mark D. Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12508873047127283895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15275986.post-48751959161691716032008-03-17T14:10:00.000-05:002008-03-17T14:10:00.000-05:00Um, no.I don't need a lesson in the Bible.The main...Um, no.<BR/><BR/>I don't need a lesson in the Bible.<BR/><BR/>The main point is:<BR/><BR/>Obama attended this man's sermons for twenty years. TWENTY.<BR/><BR/>You're explaining away - one (1) sentence. What about the other "things" this pastor said that you don't agree with? Obama sat there for TWENTY years listening to that? Donating money to that type of talk. TWENTY YEARS.<BR/><BR/>In twenty years he couldn't have found a new pastor/church/religon? Of course he could have, but he didn't. <BR/><BR/>So for the sake of your troubles, put the "damn you America" diatribe behind us. What about the twenty years of Obama's inaction, while listening to this Mr. Write hate? What about twenty years of sitting there listening to that drivel with his wife, and now his daughters are learning it; and so the circle of hate continues.<BR/><BR/>No free pass for Obama this time.ryan charismahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17998550316608259273noreply@blogger.com